Monday, August 7, 2017

Reclaiming the Rapture on the Day of Trumpet or Day of Atonement

Dr Douglas Hamp Reclaiming The Rapture Denver Prophecy Summit

Mystery of the Rapture (quotes from a pretrib site) Bible truth.org.
1. The rapture of the Body of Christ is not found in the Old Testament for the obvious reason that the institution of the local church was not revealed until the New Testament. The Old Testament deals with God working with the nation of Israel.
2.  Rapture is also not found in the Gospels, and again the reason being the Gospels primarily deal with Israel and not the churches.”
3. “The catching up of Christians is a different resurrection (the rapture), than that of Restored Israel, which was a mystery not revealed to the Jews in the Old Testament.”
4. “God used the Apostle Paul to explain how that believers in the church age have a different relationship with Christ and also a different resurrection.” [End quote all emphasis mine]

Source: Mysteries of the Bible. The Mystery of the Rapture of the Body of Christ at the End of the Church Age. Outline: I Cor 15:51-58, I Thess 4:13-18 http://bible-truth.org/myst-3.htm
       All of their points are false.
All matters are by 2-3 witnesses.

Tim Lahaye admits it “One objection to the pre-tribulation Rapture is that not one passage of Scripture teaches the two aspects of His Second Coming separated by the Tribulation. This is true. But then, no one passage teaches a post-trib or mid-trib Rapture, either.”
 “No single verse specifically states, ‘Christ will come before the Tribulation.’ On the other hand, no single passage teaches He will not come before the Tribulation, or that He will come in the middle or at the end of the Tribulation. Any such explicit declaration would end the debate immediately.”

Hal Lindsey Admits it.
“One of the worlds best known advocate of a pre-trib rapture, Lindsey admits that he cannot: “point to any single verse that clearly says the rapture will occur before… the tribulation.” (The Rapture by Hal Lindsey p. 32).

“pretribulationism is based largely on arguments from inference and silence.” (ibid p. 31).
Book: Hal Lindsey   The Rapture

Then How do they Support it? You can’t find it in the Old Testament and you can’t find it in the gospels then they support it by looking at Old Testament types and shadows, God’s method of saving His people before judgement becomes apparent and foreshadows timing of the Rapture of the church in the prophetic timeline.’

A shadow is generated from the object. If ther is no object, there is no shadow. Hence, if there is no pretrib vers, there is no shadow

Examples: Abraham and Isaac;  Joesph and Egypt.
Objectives of this study. 1. Expose the intimidating list of supposed pretrib verses. 2. Show the dozens of verses about timing of the resurrection and rapture (gathering) is not a mystery! 3. Reclaim the doctrine of the gathering of God’s people after the tribulation.

Mark Hitchcock admits it  The End by Mark Hitchcock.
“While no single verse says Jesus is coming to rapture his saints before the seven-year Tribulation, there are clear statements that He is coming to deliver His people from the coming wrath.” Mark Hitchcock, The End, Pg 136.

“…many biblical doctrines, such as the Trinity, the inerrancy of Scripture, and the dual nature of Christ, are not spelled clearly in one verse.” Mark Hitchcock, The End, Pg 136. [emphasis mine].

Pre trib rapture verses: Jn 14:1-3=Deut 24:5; Rom 8:1,19; I Cor 1:7-8; Col 3:1,4; I Thess 2:13-18; 2 Thess 2:1-3;
     The Day of the Lord is not coming until the man of sin is revealed.
I Jn 2:28-3:2; Heb 9:28; Jas 5:7-9
Look for the word resurrection and gathering.
Isa 26:19-21; Jn 5:25, 27; Jn 11:24; Dan 12:2, 13;
I Cor 15:54-55; Isa 25:8-9; Hos 13:12-14; Isa 26:19; Ezek 37:12-14;
Matt 24:30-31;I Thess 4:15-16; 1 Cor 15:52; Rev 1:10
Isa 27:12-13; 1 Pet 5:4; Col 3:4; I Jn 3:2; Ps 17:15
Rapture is Gathering and hiding away.

Whose naked? “The Rapture of the Body of Christ is not found in the Old Testament.

The Rapture is not found in the Gospels
The Catching up of Christians is a different resurrection (the Rapture), than that of Restored Israel—a mystery not revelaed to the Jews in the Old Testament.”
Source: bible-truth.or/myst-3.htm.

Isa 26:19  Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
Isa 26:20  Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
Isa 26:21  For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

Psa 118:5  I called upon the LORD in distress: the LORD answered me, and set me in a large place. (Day of Trumpet)
Deu 24:5  When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business: but he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife which he hath taken.
One year here. Which is shorter? 360/365 days, 1260 days/3.5 years/42 months, or 2550 days?

Mat 24:21  For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 3.5 years.
Mat 24:22  And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Mar_13:20  And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
Which is shorter than the other 360/365 days or 3.5 years/1260 days/42 months or 2550 days/7 years?  Why do you believe 2550 days is shorter than 360/365 days?

This following section focuses on little and time (space, while, moment, sleep, time, season, etc).
Ezr_9:8  And now for a little space grace hath been shewed from the LORD our God, to leave us a remnant to escape, and to give us a nail in his holy place, that our God may lighten our eyes, and give us a little reviving in our bondage.
Job_24:24  They are exalted for a little while, but are gone and brought low; they are taken out of the way as all other, and cut off as the tops of the ears of corn.
Psa_37:10  For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
Pro_6:10  Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep:
Pro_24:33  Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep:
Isa_10:25  For yet a very little while, and the indignation shall cease, and mine anger in their destruction.
Hos_1:4  And the LORD said unto him, Call his name Jezreel; for yet a little while, and I will avenge the blood of Jezreel upon the house of Jehu, and will cause to cease the kingdom of the house of Israel.
Hag_2:6  For thus saith the LORD of hosts; Yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land; (One year of shaking during the Day of the Lord).
Joh_7:33  Then said Jesus unto them, Yet a little while am I with you, and then I go unto him that sent me. He left the earth on the 40th Day after His resurrection on the Feast of First Fruits.
Joh_12:35  Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth.
Joh_13:33  Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you.
Joh_14:19  Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
Joh_16:16  A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.
Joh_16:17  Then said some of his disciples among themselves, What is this that he saith unto us, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me: and, Because I go to the Father?
Joh_16:18  They said therefore, What is this that he saith, A little while? we cannot tell what he saith.
Joh_16:19  Now Jesus knew that they were desirous to ask him, and said unto them, Do ye enquire among yourselves of that I said, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me?
Heb_10:37  For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
Jas_4:14  Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.

Rev_6:11  And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
    The Day of Trumpet is the rapture and the Day of Atonement begins the Day of the Lord. This one year covers both the Trumpet and Bowl judgments of Revelation and ends on the Day of Atonement with marriage of the Groom and Bride and Armageddon. Then we have 5 days of grace and then the Feast of Tabernacles/Millennium begins

Restoration of the Two houses Ezek 37:19-22   932 BC Split of the two houses.
          933 Sabbath Year (Shemitah)
2965     933 BCE, 931, 932  Kingdom split
          933-911  Jeroboam I`s reign (Israel) 22 years
          933-916, 982  Rehoboam`s reign (Judah) 17 years 1 Kings 14:21
          931** BC  Solomon's Death  1 Kings 11:40; The Kingdom is Divided  1 Kings 12, 13
Two sticks northern tribe has 10 nations and southern tribe has 2 (Judah/Benjamine). The Christians at Pentecost (28-33 CE) conjoin with the Northern tribe. They are made up from the lines of Shem, Ham, and Japeth from Noah.

Presently in Pisces in the Heavens, we have Uranus hopscotching between the horizontal line (10 Northern tribes/Church) in 2015 and the Vertical line (Southern tribe/Judah) in 2017. It fades away in 2018/2019.

Gathering of those left
Isa 11:12  And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
Isa 11:13  The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.
Rev_7:1  And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. Reference to the 144,000. But what we are after is the four winds.
Mat 24:29  Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30  And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31  And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
The Day of Trumpet in 2017 is when the gathering occurs.

God Seeks out His lost Sheep
Ezk 34:11-12; 13,16; Matt 25:31-32. Sheep go to the right and goats go to the left. The Sheep nations come into the Millennium and are present at the Feast but are not a part of the bride.
Gather the Two houses Ezek 28:25-26; Jer 31:31-36; Isa 54:7 Jer 23:3, 6

The Families of Israel Regathered (all 12 tribes)
Jer 31:1-3; Jer 31:4-7; 31:8-11; 31:31,33. The Torah will be in the hearts of His people in the Millennium. The Torah will be in the hearts of His people in the New Covenant.

Regather Israel Ezek 29:30, 40; 41,42.

House of Israel and Judah gathered Hos 1:11.

Judah and Israel gathered before Armageddon on Day of Atonement.
    This happens between the Day of Trumpet and Day of Atonement during the last ten days of humanity.
Joel 3:1; 3:2; Matt 25:31-32

God gathers the House of Israel. Zeph 3:19-20; Mic 2:12

God gathers the House of Judah and Israel (Joseph). Zech 10:6-10

Israel Gathered and the Entire World. Isa 49:5, 6; Isa 56:8; Isa 49:8, 10= Rev 7:16-17

Jesus: Angels due the gathering. Matt 13:40-42, 47-49; Mk 13:27; Matt 25:32; Lk 3:17; 2 Thess 2:1.

Bringing Back Both Houses. Jer 30:3-4, 7

House of Israel was “Not His People” Jer 30:18, 20, 22
Abrahamic Covenant was broken by all 12 tribes of Israel so along came the Mosaic Covenant which was broken so God divorced them and had to remarry them by way of death so along came Jesus to fulfill the lamb of God. Because of this came along the Renewed Covenant/Marriage Blood Covenant which some call the New Covenant but the stipulations for the New Covenant will not be fully fulfilled until the Millennium after Armageddon on the Day of Atonement.

Hosea 1:10 says “You are not my People”.

Bringing Back the House of Israel. Ezek 39:22, 23, 27, 28

Gathering of those left. Isa 26:20; Isa 4:3; =I Thess 4:16-17; The resurrection, gathering, take, taken, come up, caught up is one year prior to Armageddon (war) on the Day of Trumpet.

Remember that on the Day of Trumpet, the shophar is blown 99 times. The Last Trumpet is on the Day of Atonement. So the rapture would occur on either of those two days.


Return in Wrath is the time after Jacob’s Trouble. Isaiah 24-27 is the Day of the Lord passages. Isa 26:19-21. Isa 26:20=Psalm 118:5 Isa 26:19-21= Matt 24:31= Rev 11:15=Rev 12:1; Rev 6:12-17; Rev 8:1-7

Coming in Fire and Gathering His Own. Ps 50:3-5.

Wrath (Indignation) poured out. Isa 13:4-5; Isa 26; Isa 13:6-8;

Jesus Reiterates the Wrath of God. Matt 24:29-31. He comes on the Day of Trumpet to gather the elect.

Certainty and Precise Timing: Isa 2:19,21; Rev 6:15-17=Rev 8:1-5.

Antichrist Blasphemies God the Last 42 Months. Isa 2:12-18;

Gruesome Day of the Lord. Isaiah 24 (Jardalkalataol.blogspot.com). Isaiah 24-27 refers to the Day of the Lord. According to Isaiah, the Day of the Lord covers and one year period where the Trumpet and Bowl Judgments and poured out and it ends on the Day of Atonement with Marriage of the Groom and Bride and Armageddon. Then we have 5 days of Grace and the Millennium begins on the first annual Sabbath of Feast of Tabernacles. So in essence the Day of the Lord covers 1001 years. The 8th Day is a New Heaven and a New Earth (Rev 21-22).

Rebuke and Flames of Fire. II Thess 1:7-8; Isa 66:15-16;

Resurrection, Rapture, Return,…. Post Trib.  1. Your dead shall arise (Awake). 2. Come, my people, enter your chambers for a little moment, while the indignation passes. 3. The Lord comes out of His chamber to punish the inhabitants for their iniquity (Isa. 26:19-21).
Deu 24:5 When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war (Armageddon on Day of Atonement), neither shall he be charged with any business: but he shall be free at home 1 year, and shall cheer up his wife which he taken. (Rapture either on Day of Trumpet or Day of Atonement). I do not read 7 years in this verse or even 3.5 years. Can you prove to me that the 7 year tribulation is in this one verse?

John 6:38, 40, 44, 54 refers to the last year.

Rev has 3 time frames from Day of Trumpet to Day of Atonement. Rev 2:10 10 days = 10 years, Rev 6:12-11 = 1 year. It begins on the Day of Trumpet with the rapture and ends on Armageddon on Yom Kippur. It is then followed by 5 days of grace and then the Millennium begins on the first annual Sabbath of Feast of Taberncles.

Mystery of the Rapture (quotes from a pre-trib site) Bible truth.org.
A. The rapture of the Body of Christ is not found in the Old Testament for the obvious reason that the institution of the local church was not revealed until the New Testament.
The Old Testament deals with God working with the nation of Israel.
B. Rapture is also not found in the Gospels, and again the reason being the Gospels primarily deal with Israel and not the churches.”
C. “The catching up of Christians is a different resurrection (the rapture), than that of Restored Israel, which was a mystery not revealed to the Jews in the Old Testament.”
D. “God used the Apostle Paul to explain how that believers in the church age have a different relationship with Christ and also a different resurrection.” [End quote all emphasis mine]

Source: Mysteries of the Bible. The Mystery of the Rapture of the Body of Christ at the End of the Church Age. Outline: I Cor 15:51-58, I Thess 4:13-18 http://bible-truth.org/myst-3.htm
       All of their points are false.

Conclusions: 1. The timing is not a mystery as pre-trib argues.

2. God will resurrect the elect and gather the elect unto Himself while the wrath is poured out upon the earth in the last year of humanity. 3. Always keep Israel central and the pieces fit together. 4. God’s law will be a part of the Millennium.

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